SN 35-44 The Group of Connected Discourses Beginning With the Six Sense Fields – Saḷāyatanavaggasaṁyutta > SN 42 Connected Discourses with Chiefs – Gāmaṇisaṁyutta > SN 42.10 With Maṇicūḷaka

Linked Discourses 42.10 – Saṁyutta Nikāya 42.10

1. Chiefs – 1. Gāmaṇivagga

SN 42.10 With Maṇicūḷaka – Maṇicūḷakasutta

At one time the Buddha was staying near Rājagaha, in the Bamboo Grove, the squirrels’ feeding ground.

Ekaṁ samayaṁ bhagavā rājagahe viharati veḷuvane kalandakanivāpe.

Now at that time while the king’s retinue was sitting together in the royal compound this discussion came up among them,

Tena kho pana samayena rājantepure rājaparisāya sannisinnānaṁ sannipatitānaṁ ayamantarākathā udapādi:

“Gold and money are proper for Sakyan ascetics. They accept and receive gold and money.”

“kappati samaṇānaṁ sakyaputtiyānaṁ jātarūparajataṁ, sādiyanti samaṇā sakyaputtiyā jātarūparajataṁ, paṭiggaṇhanti samaṇā sakyaputtiyā jātarūparajatan”ti.

Now at that time the chief Maṇicūḷaka was sitting in that assembly.

Tena kho pana samayena maṇicūḷako gāmaṇi tassaṁ parisāyaṁ nisinno hoti.

He said to that retinue,

Atha kho maṇicūḷako gāmaṇi taṁ parisaṁ etadavoca:

“Good sirs, don’t say that.

“mā ayyo evaṁ avacuttha.

Gold and money are not proper for Sakyan ascetics. They neither accept nor receive gold and money. They have set aside gems and gold, and rejected gold and money.”

Na kappati samaṇānaṁ sakyaputtiyānaṁ jātarūparajataṁ, na sādiyanti samaṇā sakyaputtiyā jātarūparajataṁ, nappaṭiggaṇhanti samaṇā sakyaputtiyā jātarūparajataṁ, nikkhittamaṇisuvaṇṇā samaṇā sakyaputtiyā apetajātarūparajatā”ti.

He was able to persuade that assembly.

Asakkhi kho maṇicūḷako gāmaṇi taṁ parisaṁ saññāpetuṁ.

Then Maṇicūḷaka went up to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and told him what had happened. He then said,

Atha kho maṇicūḷako gāmaṇi yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā bhagavantaṁ abhivādetvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi. Ekamantaṁ nisinno kho maṇicūḷako gāmaṇi bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:

“idha, bhante, rājantepure rājaparisāya sannisinnānaṁ sannipatitānaṁ ayamantarākathā udapādi:

‘kappati samaṇānaṁ sakyaputtiyānaṁ jātarūparajataṁ, sādiyanti samaṇā sakyaputtiyā jātarūparajataṁ, paṭiggaṇhanti samaṇā sakyaputtiyā jātarūparajatan’ti.

Evaṁ vutte, ahaṁ, bhante, taṁ parisaṁ etadavocaṁ:

‘mā ayyo evaṁ avacuttha.

Asakkhiṁ khvāhaṁ, bhante, taṁ parisaṁ saññāpetuṁ.

“Answering this way, I trust that I repeat what the Buddha has said, and don’t misrepresent him with an untruth. I trust my explanation is in line with the teaching, and that there are no legitimate grounds for rebuke or criticism.”

Kaccāhaṁ, bhante, evaṁ byākaramāno vuttavādī ceva bhagavato homi, na ca bhagavantaṁ abhūtena abbhācikkhāmi, dhammassa cānudhammaṁ byākaromi, na ca koci sahadhammiko vādānuvādo gārayhaṁ ṭhānaṁ āgacchatī”ti?

“Indeed, in answering this way you repeat what I’ve said, and don’t misrepresent me with an untruth. Your explanation is in line with the teaching, and there are no legitimate grounds for rebuke or criticism.

“Taggha tvaṁ, gāmaṇi, evaṁ byākaramāno vuttavādī ceva me hosi, na ca maṁ abhūtena abbhācikkhasi, dhammassa cānudhammaṁ byākarosi, na ca koci sahadhammiko vādānuvādo gārayhaṁ ṭhānaṁ āgacchati.

Gold and money are not proper for Sakyan ascetics. They neither accept nor receive gold and money. They have set aside gems and gold, and rejected gold and money.

Na hi, gāmaṇi, kappati samaṇānaṁ sakyaputtiyānaṁ jātarūparajataṁ, na sādiyanti samaṇā sakyaputtiyā jātarūparajataṁ, nappaṭiggaṇhanti samaṇā sakyaputtiyā jātarūparajataṁ, nikkhittamaṇisuvaṇṇā samaṇā sakyaputtiyā apetajātarūparajatā.

If gold and money were proper for them, then the five kinds of sensual stimulation would also be proper.

Yassa kho, gāmaṇi, jātarūparajataṁ kappati, pañcapi tassa kāmaguṇā kappanti.

And if the five kinds of sensual stimulation are proper for them, you should definitely regard them as not having the qualities of an ascetic or a follower of the Sakyan.

Yassa pañca kāmaguṇā kappanti (…), ekaṁsenetaṁ, gāmaṇi, dhāreyyāsi assamaṇadhammo asakyaputtiyadhammoti.

Rather, chief, I say this:

Api cāhaṁ, gāmaṇi, evaṁ vadāmi—

Straw may be looked for by one needing straw; wood may be looked for by one needing wood; a cart may be looked for by one needing a cart; a workman may be looked for by one needing a workman.

tiṇaṁ tiṇatthikena pariyesitabbaṁ, dāru dārutthikena pariyesitabbaṁ, sakaṭaṁ sakaṭatthikena pariyesitabbaṁ, puriso purisatthikena pariyesitabbo.

But I say that there is no way they can accept or look for gold and money.”

Na tvevāhaṁ, gāmaṇi, kenaci pariyāyena ‘jātarūparajataṁ sāditabbaṁ pariyesitabban’ti vadāmī”ti.